Friday, September 22, 2006

I'd Say This Is A Good Compromise

Fire of Liberty

I've got to give a hand to President Bush, Sens. McCain, Warner, Graham, and the Republicans in the House of Representatives for pounding out a compromise with regards to setting a clear cut guidelines with regards to the holding and interrogation of the various terrorists we've caught. From what I've heard and read so far, I can honestly say that this bill is pretty much what the President was looking for and will allow us to continue to apply tough interrogation techniques on the terrorists in order to garner intelligence that allows us to prevent further attacks and roll-up more members of Al-Qaida. While the cable-news stations dropped the press conference before I could hear what was in the legislation but I did find a post in the Corner by National Review's White House Correspondent Byron York which provides a good run-down of what they agreed upon. Here's a look at what York had to say:
I just got off the phone with a Senate source who sides with the McCain/Graham/Warner camp. "I think there is every reason for both sides to be happy," he said. The key part of the deal seems to be that Congress has defined "grave breaches" of the Geneva Conventions. "We recognized that the president has the authority to interpret treaties," the source said, "but Congress now has the authority to define 'grave breaches.'" Those are what might be called the Big Nine: torture, cruel or inhuman treatment, performing biological experiments, murder, mutilation or maiming, rape, causing serious bodily injury, and sexual assault or abuse, and taking hostages. According to the source, the proposed legislation has a section defining some of the less clear categories; there was a lot of negotiation, as you might expect, over the meaning of "cruel or inhuman" treatment.

The source stressed that "grave breaches" of Common Article Three of the Geneva Conventions have long been a crime in U.S. law. "We've enumerated what a 'grave breach' is," the source said, "but Jesse Helms and Jim Inhofe made 'grave breaches' of Article Three a war crime back in 1997."

The source said the McCain/Graham/Warner camp realized that the White House had a point when it raised the possibility that "a liberal jurist would say that a female interrogator of a Muslim male is a 'grave breach.'" So after outlining the Big Nine, the negotiators recognized the authority of the president, in the words of the agreed-to draft, "to promulgate higher standards and administrative regulations for violations of treaty obligations which are not grave breaches of the Geneva Conventions."

"'Grave breaches' are crimes," the source said. "Non-grave breaches are something elseÂ….We are going to spell out grave breaches, and then it is up to the administration to come up with sanctions for violations that are less than 'grave breaches.'"

One key aspect of the deal is that it calls for the president to use an executive order to issue his interpretations of what would be non-grave breaches of the treaty, and then — this is the important part —— to publish the executive order in the Federal Register. "That means it is subject to public scrutiny," the source said. I asked whether the White House resisted on the issue of publishing the executive order, and the source said, "No, not at all."

Another part of the deal, the source said, is that no one will be able to use the Geneva Conventions as a basis for a court action against an individual or the U.S. government. "There is no private right of action," the source said.

Everyone is still studying and interpreting what was done, but it seems clear now that the devil will be in the definitions. But the fights will be within the context of U.S. law, not the Geneva Conventions.
Thankfully for the sake of national security the Senate, House and White House rolled up their sleeves and came up with a pretty good piece of legislation that will let us continue policies that are essential in this new kind of warfare.


shliknik said...

I'm glad they got this hammered out. The McCain crowd was really aggravating me and I feel like they were missing the point - yes, the US should follow the Geneva Convention rules to prevent the torturing of our soldiers....BUT these guildlines were/are intended for organized countries recognized by the international community - not an unorganized terrorist group who follows noones' rules but their own. They don't care if we follow or don't follow the Geneva convention. Their desire to kill all US citizens/soldiers hasn't changed!!!

It's obvious McCain was speaking from the heart based on his past experiences in a POW camp. I just think what he was looking past is you CAN'T deal with the terrorists - no plan or promise of not 'torturing' the prisoners is gonna stop them from trying to attain their ultimate goal - death to us.

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